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	<title>Comments on: The Road to Passenger 3: Technology Preview 4 &#8211; Adding new features and removing old limitations</title>
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		<title>By: Hongli Lai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hongli Lai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Philip: Since Passenger 3 has been out for a while now you can find out for yourself. But to make it easier for you: mass deployment was the only thing that was omitted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Philip: Since Passenger 3 has been out for a while now you can find out for yourself. But to make it easier for you: mass deployment was the only thing that was omitted.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 16:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ninh

I&#039;m with you on all that you&#039;ve said about the different markets that you are investigating. No complaints from me about any of that. Heh, no complaints at all, actually. Just one question, and if it has been answered elsewhere, kindly point me in the right direction and I&#039;ll be on my way (I&#039;m just now getting caught up on the Passenger 3 news):

You said a few times that &quot;almost everything we&#039;ve blogged about will be in Passenger 3&quot; that is publicly available. You seemed to stress &quot;everything&quot;, but my attention kept resting on &quot;almost&quot;. Of the things you&#039;ve blogged about, what would be left out of the public version of Passenger 3 and be reserved for the custom environments you mentioned?

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ninh</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you on all that you&#8217;ve said about the different markets that you are investigating. No complaints from me about any of that. Heh, no complaints at all, actually. Just one question, and if it has been answered elsewhere, kindly point me in the right direction and I&#8217;ll be on my way (I&#8217;m just now getting caught up on the Passenger 3 news):</p>
<p>You said a few times that &#8220;almost everything we&#8217;ve blogged about will be in Passenger 3&#8243; that is publicly available. You seemed to stress &#8220;everything&#8221;, but my attention kept resting on &#8220;almost&#8221;. Of the things you&#8217;ve blogged about, what would be left out of the public version of Passenger 3 and be reserved for the custom environments you mentioned?</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Rugnil</title>
		<link>http://blog.phusion.nl/2010/07/29/the-road-to-passenger-3-technology-preview-4-adding-new-features-and-removing-old-limitations/comment-page-1/#comment-29041</link>
		<dc:creator>Rugnil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 03:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ninh Bui

Please don&#039;t let these negative comments deter you. I think that Microsoft has sullied everyone&#039;s view on licensing. Newsflash, everyone! Licensing fees can *actually* be reasonable!

As long as I can run a small-to-medium sized site (non-profit sites for instance) on the free version it&#039;s fine by me! A fair licensing price for some Enterprise features/support sounds entirely reasonable and only enables you guys to keep rocking amazing products.

I&#039;ve recently spent about $75,000 on server hardware for my company. I think I can manage a small licensing fee to run these servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ninh Bui</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t let these negative comments deter you. I think that Microsoft has sullied everyone&#8217;s view on licensing. Newsflash, everyone! Licensing fees can *actually* be reasonable!</p>
<p>As long as I can run a small-to-medium sized site (non-profit sites for instance) on the free version it&#8217;s fine by me! A fair licensing price for some Enterprise features/support sounds entirely reasonable and only enables you guys to keep rocking amazing products.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently spent about $75,000 on server hardware for my company. I think I can manage a small licensing fee to run these servers.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyrille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, just wondering if you are planing to releasing this week ? Actually I&#039;ve a brand new environment to install and wanted to know if I can count on releasing on Passenger 3 :-)

Keep the good work !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, just wondering if you are planing to releasing this week ? Actually I&#8217;ve a brand new environment to install and wanted to know if I can count on releasing on Passenger 3 <img src='http://blog.phusion.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keep the good work !</p>
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		<title>By: Ninh Bui</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ninh Bui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tim Clark:
I&#039;ve forwarded your comment to Zed Shaw, I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll appreciate it :-) However, comparing Passenger to mongrel2 is like comparing apples to pears. It really depends if you need apples or pears! Also, who said there won&#039;t be a free version of Passenger anymore? If anything, I&#039;ve tried to emphasize that there indeed actually will be. If Passenger works great for you at this time, it will continue to do so and even in a better way. I guess I should stop feeding the trolls now ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim Clark:<br />
I&#8217;ve forwarded your comment to Zed Shaw, I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll appreciate it <img src='http://blog.phusion.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  However, comparing Passenger to mongrel2 is like comparing apples to pears. It really depends if you need apples or pears! Also, who said there won&#8217;t be a free version of Passenger anymore? If anything, I&#8217;ve tried to emphasize that there indeed actually will be. If Passenger works great for you at this time, it will continue to do so and even in a better way. I guess I should stop feeding the trolls now <img src='http://blog.phusion.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing we still have free alternatives like mongrel2 out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing we still have free alternatives like mongrel2 out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Ninh Bui</title>
		<link>http://blog.phusion.nl/2010/07/29/the-road-to-passenger-3-technology-preview-4-adding-new-features-and-removing-old-limitations/comment-page-1/#comment-25582</link>
		<dc:creator>Ninh Bui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not much longer now. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much longer now. <img src='http://blog.phusion.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam Granieri</title>
		<link>http://blog.phusion.nl/2010/07/29/the-road-to-passenger-3-technology-preview-4-adding-new-features-and-removing-old-limitations/comment-page-1/#comment-25581</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Granieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any update on when we can play around with Passenger 3? Soon, perhaps? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any update on when we can play around with Passenger 3? Soon, perhaps? <img src='http://blog.phusion.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 20:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, thanks so much for all your work on Ruby Enterprise and Passenger.  I&#039;m looking forward to Passenger 3!  By all means, have a premium version or whatever the heck you want to do.  Make money, and keep yourselves and these awesome products around.

Cheers,
Robert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, thanks so much for all your work on Ruby Enterprise and Passenger.  I&#8217;m looking forward to Passenger 3!  By all means, have a premium version or whatever the heck you want to do.  Make money, and keep yourselves and these awesome products around.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Robert</p>
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		<title>By: Ninh Bui</title>
		<link>http://blog.phusion.nl/2010/07/29/the-road-to-passenger-3-technology-preview-4-adding-new-features-and-removing-old-limitations/comment-page-1/#comment-25405</link>
		<dc:creator>Ninh Bui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@William Lee:
Well, you&#039;ve always been free to explore whatever solution you want to use of course, so if you feel Unicorn is a good fit for you, then yes, by all means, use whatever feels right for you. It&#039;s a pretty cool solution and we&#039;ve contributed to it as well, but we believe Passenger 3 is going to be an entirely different beast.

Passenger has always had a very distinct philosophy of ease of use while retaining power, basically aiming to provide people with the state of the art deployment solution as we&#039;re unveiling in these tech previews. As mentioned quite a few times over now, we&#039;re currently exploring the segment of people who need absolutely nothing but the best and are willing to pay for that to keep it that way. It appears from your reply that you&#039;re not part of that group and that&#039;s perfectly fine, but please don&#039;t go off spreading FUD e.g. &quot;it&#039;s just a matter of time before they go completely commercial&quot;. You have absolutely nothing to base such a claim on and in addition, I don&#039;t think I can be any more clear than what I&#039;ve written before:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Suffice it to say, open source will always remain a part of our business and the fact that there is a choice with regards to deployment solutions has encouraged us in investigating this route; if people using our high-end products feel we are delivering an inferior product with regards to the “competition”, they have the option and choice to consider alternatives. More importantly though, if it ever came to that, we would’ve failed our job and it’ll be a cold day in hell before we let it come to that ;-)&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@William Lee:<br />
Well, you&#8217;ve always been free to explore whatever solution you want to use of course, so if you feel Unicorn is a good fit for you, then yes, by all means, use whatever feels right for you. It&#8217;s a pretty cool solution and we&#8217;ve contributed to it as well, but we believe Passenger 3 is going to be an entirely different beast.</p>
<p>Passenger has always had a very distinct philosophy of ease of use while retaining power, basically aiming to provide people with the state of the art deployment solution as we&#8217;re unveiling in these tech previews. As mentioned quite a few times over now, we&#8217;re currently exploring the segment of people who need absolutely nothing but the best and are willing to pay for that to keep it that way. It appears from your reply that you&#8217;re not part of that group and that&#8217;s perfectly fine, but please don&#8217;t go off spreading FUD e.g. &#8220;it&#8217;s just a matter of time before they go completely commercial&#8221;. You have absolutely nothing to base such a claim on and in addition, I don&#8217;t think I can be any more clear than what I&#8217;ve written before:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Suffice it to say, open source will always remain a part of our business and the fact that there is a choice with regards to deployment solutions has encouraged us in investigating this route; if people using our high-end products feel we are delivering an inferior product with regards to the “competition”, they have the option and choice to consider alternatives. More importantly though, if it ever came to that, we would’ve failed our job and it’ll be a cold day in hell before we let it come to that <img src='http://blog.phusion.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221;</p></blockquote>
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